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Jerry - It's a good-looking book and has lots of interesting original artwork in it.
Farah - Yes, not only the artwork but it got very, very good reviews from other UFO investigators and abduction investigators and from the websites . David Huggins is a very interesting personality because his contact began when he was only 8 years old and he had no idea what was happening to him.
Jerry - If I remember correctly, that was in Georgia or someplace.
Farah - Yes, in Georgia. He was living on a farm and his initial contact was in the daytime, it didn't start in the night time. This is very unique.
Jerry - We urge people to pick up that book; the name of it is...
Farah - "Love in an Alien Purgatory: The Life and Fantastic Art of David Huggins" printed by Anomalist Books and you can order it from Amazon or Anomalist Books website or you can get it from me or you can get it from David Huggins.
Jerry - Okay, let's talk about a tragedy - and it really was a tragedy - you went down to Ecuador, and...
Farah - Yes, a tragic-comedy, in fact - it wasn't a tragedy but was a tragic comedy. Let me tell you the story:
As you know I have a very big love for the Spanish language and for the Spanish culture. In the course of my education I spent many of my years studying Spanish, teaching Spanish, and I'm very much involved in the culture of Latin America.
It was going to be my first time in South America; I spent a lot of time in Spain, but in Latin America - never. I didn't know anything about the realities of Ecuador.
Months passed and I didn't hear anything from the conference organization. The way it works there, is very different from how it works here. I kept sending emails asking if everything was okay, are we going to do the conference, whatever. I got very few answers. And for me, at the very beginning it was very strange to see that there weren't any advertisements, any PR about the conference on the internet. And I contacted Jaime Rodriguez about and I said, "You know what? The conference date is coming closer and I don't see anything about the conference. Why don't you put advertisements on Facebook or Myspace or any of those things?" He said, "Let's not do that now. It is much better to keep it secret." I didn't understand. Why do you keep it secret?
- so I emailed Jaime Rodriguz and he says of course it's safe, bring whatever you want. He gives me the guarantees that everything is going to be safe. So I took the laptop.
When I got there, the people who met me at the airport took me to a student's hostel, not a hotel - a hostel is a very cheap place where students or tourists who have no money can afford to stay, without spending a lot of money. So we went there, they showed me my room - it was horrible, the first thing, when I opened the door there were roaches in the room - it was on the ground floor so there was no security and it was far from the City Center where the conference was. It was very isolated and dark and I was scared; the first night, I couldn't sleep - all night. In the rooms, there is no telephone for an emergency, the government cut off electricity for four hours every day, hot water not available 24 hours a day, but when the electricity was cut, there was no running water at all, hot or cold.
Jerry - Four hours a day, no electricity, every day?
So two days after - it was daytime - it was a Saturday. I didn't have anything to do so I went to the City Center again, to see the city. When I came back to my hostel room I found that someone had come into my room and stolen my laptop. I had locked the laptop into my suitcase and I had the key with me. The laptop was gone and my other things were messed up (probably they were looking for money but I hadn't left any money there). The good thing is they didn't steal my passport because it was going to be very difficult to get another passport.
I went to the desk and was told that the only person with access to the key was the cleaning boy - he was there but he didn't want to call the police so I called the police. Seven or eight showed up and after that the hostel owner came and said she never saw me with a laptop. She said maybe one of the other guests stole it rather than the cleaning boy. (The door had not been forced open; a key was used and theoretically the cleaning boy was the only one with a key.) I had to go alone to the police station to make a statement. Nobody from the conference came and helped me, I was there 4 hours on a Saturday night with all the criminals and had to come back alone again.
The other conference people left their laptops and other equipment out in their rooms and none of theirs got stolen. I was the only victim. And mine was in my suitcase. So, Jaime Rodriguez says he feels very guilty because he gave me the guarantees that I can bring my laptop and nothing is going to happen, said (in front of his friends and the others), "Don't worry, I am very sorry and I'm going to send you another laptop, the same model, the same everything - in order to compensate for this situation."
I told him I appreciated it and I explained the urgency of the situation - without a computer I have no livelihood.
For two months I couldn't work. Jaime didn't keep his promise he quit answering my emails and I still have no computer. I'm using a borrowed one because I can't afford to buy a new one.
I don't know why Jaime Rodriguez, the leading UFO investigator of Ecuador, invited me, knowing the dangers of his country - second, he didn't give me any security, third, they just ignore me. Another thing, after the burglary, I insisted that he take me to another hotel because my flight wasn't until Monday and this was a Saturday. He said he would but there was no guarantee that anyplace else was any safer. I said, why did you bring me here knowing how dangerous is was and I got no answers. And now they ignore me. This could have happened anywhere - I live in New York City and these things happen everyday but what I don't understand why am I being treated so indifferently. That's my story, basically.
Jerry - Wow. It seems pretty strange that they stole your laptop and nobody else's.
Farah: Yes, and I'm telling you, other people's laptops, cameras, and everything were in plain sight, on the bed, on the desk, but I locked mine in my suitcase and I had the key with me. So I don't know if it's a conspiracy, if it's a little burglary, I don't know what it is.
Jerry - You don't have anything in your presentation that would warrant government intervention from Ecuador, do you?
Farah - I don't think so, I don't think so.
Jerry - I'm so sorry this happened to you and I know you are too. And I guess that's all we can do, is just tell people about it.
Farah - Yes, if anybody is planning to go to Ecuador they have to be very, very careful.
Jerry - Now, you live in Turkey part of the time and it sounds like Ecuador is much worse than anyplace in the Mid East.
Farah - Oh yes, definitely, because they kept telling me that the police were corrupt in Ecuador and of course I called the police after the burglary to the hostel and they came in ten minutes and they did everything possible so they tried to help but there was nothing to do because the laptop was gone and the hostel owner didn't help us. Much later when Jaime Rodriguez came to the hostel, he said, "Why did you call the police?" I said, "What did you expect me to do?" He said they were corrupt and they would ask money from you and I told him they had not. He said they were working together with the gangs. He mentioned one more thing: I don't know if it's true or not. He said that there was a market for stolen electronic items and the police know about that and the police buy stolen goods at very cheap prices from them. I don't know if it's true or not.
So I think it was very irresponsible for them to invite me to their very dangerous country and - imagine, what if I was in the room when the burglar (or burglars) came, if they had a gun. I am not a martial-arts expert. I cannot defend myself. I don't have a gun. How would I have defended myself in that very isolated place? It is crazy.
Jerry - Maybe someone in Ecuador is reading this, who bought that computer on the black market and if so, they should contact me at jerry@jerrypippin.com Maybe we can get your computer back. It's a long shot, but...
Farah - A very long shot, of course...
Jerry - Farah, thanks for coming on and talking to me about this and I'm just so sorry.
Farah - Well, thank you very much for this time that you offered to me. For me it is very important that everybody knows what happened to me at that UFO conference in Ecuador and it is very important for me to warn people who are intending to go to Ecuador and especially after what happened to me in the hostel in Iguanazu is unbelievable because they didn't offer any help after that; they just walked away - so don't stay there. Don't go to Ecuador. Or if you have to go, be very careful. Don't take electronic items - no phones, no cameras, no laptop, no credit cards, no money. So how would you go there? I don't know, maybe astral-projection.
Jerry - At least you still have your sense of humor.
Farah - Well, it helps me to survive.
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Meanwhile I'm getting ready and somebody told me something I didn't believe. They said be careful there, and it may be dangerous to take your laptop with you. I said, "Why?" I needed my laptop computer in order to give my presentation at the conference, right?
Farah - Every day, four hours - and you try to have guest-speakers. It is unbelievable. I didn't want to be rude. It's only for six days, I'm not going to live here forever. But I didn't feel safe, the door to my room wasn't even substantial - I asked the owner if I was safe and she said "Of course - nothing happens here." So I believed - but the next day, Jaime Rodriguez and his team workers came to the hostel again and they started to give me instructions about what I have to do and what I don't have to do in Ecuador. They said, never take a cab from the street because many of the cab drivers are working together with the gangs and they take you to an isolated place to an ATM machine and with a gun to your head they will have you take all your money from your bank account and give it to them and if you are lucky, they don't kill you in that spot, they take everything including your passport and leave you alone in an isolated spot for you to find your own way back. I said, "Is this true or is this a joke?" And they said it was true. (Jaime was kidnapped himself recently) - I said why didn't you tell me this before? And there was no answer. Crime levels are very high and it is a daily part of their life.
So we did the conference and it was very successful. There were about 500 people in the room. They were extremely nice and I had a wonderful contact with them. I talked about the esoteric roots of the Turkish race and the Latin American race related to the Lost Continent Mu and all those things. They loved it very much, it was in their native language and of course I used my laptop in order to do the power point presentation, in order to show videos and everything.
