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In this interview, Budd Hopkins talks with Jerry about his new book and the UFO crash in New Mexico that he investigated. The Crash occurred in 1963 and involved three dead ETs.


 
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Listen to Jerry and Larry discuss events that occurred during the Budd Hopkins Sight Unseen Seminar on October 11, 2003. You will also hear interviews with Budd Hopkins, Carol Rainey and Peter Robbins recorded by Larry following the seminar. We guarantee that you will get some exclusive and exciting new information when you listen.








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Seminar Moderator, Oliver Von Kemenczky, Intruders Foundation

 

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Listen to a previously recorded interview between Jerry and Budd, Director of the Intruders Foundation in New York City, author and one of the world's leading Abduction Investigators. In the book Missing Time, in chapter three, Budd Hopkins tells, in detail, the story of Michael and his abduction. Then, listen to a sound clip of Michael talking about that incident in his life.
 

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In this interview, Bob, a Secaucus, New Jersey resident, relates his experiences and those of his father in 1979. In early September 1979, Bob's father witnessed a UFO land in North Hudson Park, North Bergen, NJ, which is across the Hudson River from Manhattan in New York City. Bob tells a strange story of a UFO landing, observation of "gray beings," strange behavior of his father's car, missing time, and predictions of the future. This incident was reported to Budd Hopkins, and is a piece of the puzzle that surrounds the ongoing sightings in New Jersey's North Hudson Park that began in 1975 with the incidents investigated by Budd Hopkins, and which continue to this day.


 
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Jerry and Larry discuss the USAF SAC Base close encounter with UFO's in 1966. The account of this encounter with a number of 30 foot diameter disc shaped craft that hovered only a few feet above a runway between parked B-52 bombers was provided by an anonymous retired USAF person to Budd Hopkins, and was relayed to Larry by Budd prior to this recorded discussion.



 

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Intruders Foundation Seminar Series
Farah Yurdozu reports from New York City - Intruders Foundation Seminar Series, June 2006
LINDA CORTILE AND THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE ABDUCTION CASE - LATEST DEVELOPMENTS,
NEWEST DISCLOSURES, AND AN UPDATE TO THE BOOK, "WITNESSED"

THE MOST “WITNESSED” ABDUCTION CASE by Farah Yurdozu

When I first met Budd Hopkins in person in Istanbul, he kindly inscribed his book Witnessed to me “For Farah with every good wish.” It was June 2000. Now, exactly six years later in New York City, I had my first meeting with Linda Cortile in Budd’s Intruders Foundation Seminar. This IF seminar focused on Linda Cortile and the Brooklyn Bridge Abduction case.

“Witnessed: The True Story of the Brooklyn Bridge UFO Abductions” was written in 1996, but since then the case has not closed. Budd Hopkins is still working on the case. There are updates, more information and more people who are ready to speak out about it.

Even though Linda had been abducted since she was a little girl she was unaware of her experiences, just like many abductees. But, the secret was revealed on November 30, 1989, when at least two people witnessed her being abducted. Two security agents, Richard and Dan, were the primary witnesses, who saw a lady floating in the the sky together with three other aliens in the direction of a UFO. They weren’t the only ones who watched this extraordinarily realistic incident. They were accompanying a third man that night--according to some rumors Javier Perez de Cuellar, at that time Secretary General of the United Nations, who has never admitted being there with them.

But, there were more witnesses such as Janet Kimball, who was driving on the Brooklyn Bridge. Her car stopped, and when she saw the scene she thought that it was a movie being filmed. Yes, many people saw the actual abduction except the abductee herself. The next day after the abduction, for Linda, it was impossible to believe Richard and Dan’s story. Eventually, the discovery of a nose implant, an unexpected visit by a Gray alien in her bedroom, and memories retrieved under hypnosis helped Linda to accept her life-long reality.

One of the biggest mysteries of the Linda Cortile case was the fact that she and Richard had been abducted together numerous times since they were little children. On another occasion Linda, Dan, Richard and the 3rd man were abducted together too.

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Linda's nose implant.

 UPDATES ON THE CASE:

I think the literal description of the word of “abduction” could never be enough to understand and solve this mysterious phenomenon. Being abducted, taken or contacted can begin when the abductee is very young and in some respects it generally does not end, because abduction always leaves physical, emotional and spiritual aftereffects on the person. The Brooklyn Bridge case is a very clear example of this fact. It happened in 1989, the book was written in 1996 but the file is still open. For the abductee and for the researcher nothing is over yet. And as a result of this now there are new witnesses.

Two of these new witnesses, “Robert” and “Yency” were guest speakers at the IF seminar. They contacted Budd Hopkins after the book was published, and they have a great deal to say about Linda’s abduction. Just like Janet Kimball, Robert thought that it was a movie shoot when he saw the lady in a night gown levitating to the UFO together with the aliens. Yency was driving on the Manhattan Bridge and claims that both he and many other co-workers witnessed the abduction on that night. And according to a New York Post journalist, thirty other women were abducted on November 30th, 1989.

We have two new witnesses now, but the lead characters, Richard and Dan, are not accessible anymore. Nobody knows what happened to Dan since he developed some mental problems. He may have committed suicide, or may be in a mental hospital or prison. As mentioned in the book, Dan kidnapped Linda. And, he called her “Lady of the Sands,” when they were by the ocean together. Later under hypnosis, Linda recalled that she was abducted from the shore with Richard, Dan and the third man.

Linda says that Richard calls her twice a year, but that he refuses to give more testimony about the case. At one point, he promised to speak with Budd Hopkins, but he did not do so.

One of the other surprising aspects of this abduction case was the Roman Catholic church’s interest and positive approach to UFOs and Aliens. Linda Cortile had the chance to speak on UFO’s with the late Cardinal John O’Connor, and he was very open minded on this issue. Linda last saw the Cardinal in 1996. Even though she had never mentioned to him anything about her own abduction, during this last meeting the Cardinal called her “Lady of the Sands.” Years later Linda would find out that Cardinal John O’Connor was from Navy just like Richard.

I am sure we’ll find out more surprising and revealing facts on this case thanks to Budd Hopkins’ expertise and tireless dedication.

Intruders Foundation Seminar Series
Rendlesham & KeckSburg: Two Anniversaries, Two AMAZING UFO Incidents
Saturday, February 25, 2006

DOWN TO EARTH UFOS.....KECKSBURG AND RENDLESHAM UFO CASES
by Farah Yurdozu

The February 2006 Intruders Foundation seminar focused on two important UFO landings from the past. Leslie Kean, independent journalist and Director of Investigations for the Coalition for Freedom of Information (CFI) and Peter Robbins, UFO investigator and co-author of "Left At East Gate: A First-Hand Account of the Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident, Its Cover-up and Investigation" presented new information about two celebrated UFO cases: Kecksburg and Rendlehsam.

The Kecksburg, PA UFO crash case occurred on December 9, 1965. Two well known names, Stan Gordon and Leslie Kean are pioneers in the research of this case. Stan Gordon has been living in the same area and he started to investigate this mysterious acorn-shaped object in 1965. Leslie Kean got involved in the case in 2002.

The Kecksburg case was a daytime sighting, and the object was observed by multiple witnesses. According to their reports the object was first seen in the sky and later fell into the woods. Before the military closed the area some lucky local people managed to see the metallic, bronze-gold color UFO. It was almost the size of a Volkswagen car and there were no visible openings, windows or door on the surface. It was quite different from the classic UFO’s or other observed ET vehicles. Jim Romansky, one of the witnesses, said that at the back part of the object there were some markings which reminded him of Egyptian hieroglyphics. No one saw a human, humanoid or Extra Terrestrial being. There were no living or dead passengers or pilot related to the object. And it was said that the object was large enough for a man to stand in it.

Even though there were many witnesses and valuable information about the Kecksburg case, everything was denied by the authorities. There were reporters on the area, there were newspaper articles about the crash, there were reliable eyewitness reports, but they were forced to forget about the case. They were forced to keep quiet. For the authorities, acknowledging the ET possibility was out of the question.

The Kecksburg object was so real that anybody who tried to get closer to the area was stopped by armed soldiers; meanwhile an army tractor-trailer was seen leaving the scene with an object matching the description of the UFO on board. Years later a former Air Force security policeman said that the object was taken to Wright-Patterson Air Force base near Dayton, Ohio. There were also side effects of the object, such as some people who got close to it developed cancer in the following years. Possible radiation?

Nicholas L. Johnson , chief scientist for Orbital Debris at the NASA Johnson Space Center, explained that Cosmos 96, the Russian probe that has been named as a possible explanation for the Kecksburg object, did not land in Pennsylvania on the afternoon of December 9, 1965. He also reported that no other man-made object from any country came down that day. Because of a NASA’s denial of pertinent information, CFi opened a lawsuit against the agency in 2003.

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For more information on the Kecksburg case: www.freedomofinfo.org and http://www.westol.com/~paufo/

Our second story is from the other side of the ocean. Peter Robbins is a well-known New York City-based investigator/writer who is the co-author of "Left At East Gate: A First-Hand Account of the Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident, Its Cover-up and Investigation" . This book is based on investigations, personal UFO sightings and experiences of both Peter Robbins and Larry Warren. Some people think that what happened on December 27-28, 1980 in England is much bigger and more important than the Roswell UFO crash. The Rendlesham Forest UFO sightings were confirmed by radar and most of the witnesses were military personnel. There were also abduction reports.

The most talked-about UFO incident happened close to two British military bases, RAF Woodbridge and RAF Bentwaters. When the first UFO was seen in the area, witnesses thought that it was a downed airplane. But later when patrolmen entered into the forest they saw many strange lights and a blinding light from an unidentified object. They described the object as conical, metallic and hovering over a clearing between the trees in a yellow mist. One of them also said that they saw triangular landing gear. Meanwhile the object backed off a little bit as if it was aware of the group’s presence. The close encounter affected the patrol men in both a physical and psychological way. They felt as if they were in a kind of trance. Later some people reported that they saw robot-like beings inside the object. It was said that base commander Gordon Williams arrived at the encounter area and tried to communicate with the beings using sign language.

Obviously the first patrol group who had the close encounter were the most affected by the case. But shortly after their experience, they were forced to deny the case and sign false reports against their will. Larry Warren was one of them. He was taken to an underground facility and kept there almost two days. Larry was chemically subdued by two men in civilian clothing. He and his friends were told to remain silent and were warned by U.S. military intelligence personnel that if they didn't… "Bullets are cheap."

This close encounter case caused different results in different people. While some of them were forced to forget about everything, someone else, the Deputy Commander of Bentwaters air base, Lt. Col. Charles Halt, issued a report to the Ministry of Defence (MOD). "The object was described as being metallic in appearance and triangular in shape, approximately three metres across the base and two metres high. It illuminated the entire forest with a white light....As the patrol men approached the object, it manoeuvred through the trees and disappeared. At this time the animals in a nearby farm went into a frenzy. The next day three depressions were found where the object had been sighted on the ground."

Years later, in December 2002 another file was released by the British Ministry of Defense. This180-page file consists of reports, letters and classified documents on the Rendlesham incident. But so far there are no responses from US government about the case.

In December 2005 Peter Robbins went to England to participate in the 25th anniversary of this important case. And during the IF seminar he shared with us another interesting aspect of the incident: now there are organized tourist visits to the sighting place; the UFO trail. And Peter joined one of these groups with the tour guide and guests who were very glad to see the co-writer of the “Left at East Gate” book.

Two TV documentaries were made on the Rendlesham case: Sci Fi Channel’s "UFO Invasion at Rendlesham" and The History Channel’s "UFO Files - Britain's Roswell,” both broadcast in 2005. The Kecksburg and Rendlesham UFO cases are unique and significant close encounters. But this closeness must be giving fears to some people, not just to first hand witnesses, but others as well…

The pioneer researchers and writers such as Kean, Gordon, Robbins and Warren have been figthing against invisible forces to destroy the wall of secrecy. Now UFO researchers are one part, the forces who try to cover up the real facts is the second part. But what about the third part, I mean the Extra Terrestrial visitors who visit, crash, land, hover over the earth. They have been causing lots of excitement, fear, cover-up, research, documentaries, books, conferences on our planet. They are extremely popular here. But still they don’t give us what we want. I wonder, what do they think about us and our efforts to prove their existence? Do they also like this hide and seek game? Don’t they want to be proved? Why they keep this silence? Any suggestions?

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For more information on Rendlesham case: http://rendlesham-incident.co.uk/ 

Intruders Foundation Seminar Series
ABDUCTEE PANEL DISCUSSION
Saturday, January 21, 2006

BEING ABDUCTED BY IGNORANCE
By Farah Yurdozu

One way or another many of us are abducted by something during our lives. Some of us are abducted by aliens, and some of us are abducted by ignorance. Believe me being abducted by ignorance is just as dangerous.

The January 2006 Intruders Foundation Seminar focused on 3 abductees: Alison, Randy and Jay, who preferred to keep their identities anonymous, and their life long abduction experiences. It was very generous of them to share their deeply emotional, sometimes painful and numerous experiences with us. These three abductees have been working with Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs, Ph.D for many years. The seminar also hosted a discussion of Dr. Susan Clancy’s book "Abducted: How People Come to Believe They Were Kidnapped By Aliens".

Hopkins and Jacobs, pioneers of abduction research, were hosts of the Abductee Panel Discussion. Their studied approach makes it very clear that the abduction phenomenon must be handled by expert hands. Hopkins and Jacobs have been helping and guiding traumatized abductees for more than 30 years. They have worked with hundreds of abductees and know that in the next 30 years there will be more subjects, more abduction cases to study.

In contrast to Hopkins’ and Jacobs’ thorough approach, the “anti-abduction” point of view seems to be through the eye of a needle. The debunkers are not so thorough. First of all their typical mistake is to dismiss abduction as sleep paralysis. Some abductees have a similar sensation to sleep paralysis at the beginning of the abduction. But only if they are sleeping. What about daytime abductions? Abductee Travis Walton is a very famous example of one of these daytime cases. Also in his case there were “daytime” witnesses who saw everything.

As Budd Hopkins states on the IF website: “The sleep paralysis explanation has been eagerly seized upon because a sizeable percentage of UFO abductions occur at night, in the subject's bedroom. There are, of course, myriad objections to the sleep paralysis theory, but it clearly self-destructs before one central problem: the large percentage of UFO abductions which occur in the daytime, when the abductee is up and about, driving a car, taking a walk, playing in the front yard, or even, in one case, driving a tractor. In fact, for the first twenty years of UFO abduction accounts, I am aware of none that reportedly took place inside one's home or bedroom. So, as science decrees, if a theory does not fit the data, it must be rejected.”

One other spurious debunking method is the “media contamination” theory: basically that everyone is so exposed to science fiction as to believe that they are taken by ET’s. This is a very unrealistic view because most abductees had no interest in Science Fiction culture until they were abducted by something that they were unable to explain by more “rational” means. Most abductees have never paid attention to ET’s until they have seen them in their own bedrooms with their own eyes.

Trying to explain alien abduction cases with sleep paralysis, media contamination, space age religion tendencies show the lack of knowledge and vision. And I call this; abducted by ignorance, which is really dangerous.

THREE ABDUCTEES AT INTRUDERS FOUNDATION JANUARY 2006 SEMINAR

Randy is a 38 years old photographer and musician. He worked with the late Dr. John Mack. For Randy it was never easy to accept that he is an abductee. His abductions started when he was a 4 year old. He saw beings. His parents didn’t understand what was happening to him and said that what he had was a nightmare. The nightmares didn’t stop and medical tests started. At the end of 8 years of medical testing they didn’t find anything wrong with Randy.

When Randy was 22, the situation started to get more serious. One night the intruders came in. Randy was lying on his back with his eyes open. When he saw them, time seemed to both rush and slow down. Randy was in shock. He tied to move and fight back. The closest visitor to him had a kind of rod and hit Randy on the neck with it. Randy felt a buzzing sound, at the same time he saw all his life just like a flash of movie. After the hit his body was shut down step by step in 4-5 seconds. Later he remembered that he was taken to a craft. There he floated with nothing supporting him. These were only some short recollections from a life full of abductions.

Randy doesn’t think that Aliens are evil. What they are doing to us is not very different than what the human kind does to the nature and the animals.

Alison is a young mother of two daughters who are abductees as well. David Jacobs and Alison have been working together since 1993 and they have done 44 hypnotic regression séances. Before she was aware of her and her children’s experiences Alison never had the slightest interest for New Age, UFO’s, Science Fiction or any similar subject. She says that she was a skeptic.

Then, when they were 4 and 6 years old her children began telling her about night time visitors, of being in a round shape room and of lying over a metallic table. Alison decided to research the phenomenon to be able to help her daughters. Alison took her kids for an eye exam and one girl was terrified to be in a doctor’s office. When she saw the machines and the examination chair she immediately remembered her ET abductions.

Alison felt overwhelmed by her daughters’ fears to the point that her only answer was to offer: “But they always bring you back…”

One other time the little girl was in the hallway and she saw a female Alien. She asked her, “Where is my mom?”. Alien told her that she is her real mother. The little girl mentioned this incident to Alison but assured her, “Don’t worry mom, I know that they are trying to trick me.”

Meanwhile Alison started to have strange “dreams” and waking up with bruises and cuts on her body. She says that she had hundreds of abductions and remembers most of them. Later she found out that her abductions started when she was very little and her abductees were standard Grays. There was no communication and they never explained to her why she was abducted.

Jay defines himself as an “involuntary volunteer”. His abductions also started when he was a child. A female Alien used to come and wait for him by walking through closed doors. Jay remembers that they went to a circular shaped ship together. Inside, the halls were curved and there was a lounge-like place with dentist-style chairs. A female alien was always with Jay, keeping him calm. One of the experiences that he would never forget was about a small biological creature in a liquid. An alien grabbed the creature and put it on Jay’s arm. The creature bit his arm twice. When he asked why they did this the answer was simply, “It was necessary.” Jay got the feeling that it was a kind of exchange between him and the small creature. Each time they brought him back in the same way, walking through closed doors.

Jay has 4 children and the youngest one started to have the typical signs of abduction. Lately he had a dream about a lizard man. He had to fight with him and pushed him out of the window. Jay’s last Alien visit was 8-10 months ago.

The three abductees we met at the Intruders Foundation seminar have a great deal in common. First of all it was very clear and obvious that they felt extremely uneasy about the experience. As their abductions started in a very early age, since the beginning of their lives they have dealt with loneliness and fear. Also like many other abductees Alison, Randy and Jay are not self-described abductees. On the contrary they struggled many years against of this idea. Particularly Alison and Randy had no interest about UFO-Alien topics. But they were lucky to meet experts like Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs. After numerous séances and detailed investigations they came to the conclusion of Alien Abduction. So, far from being “self-described” abductees, Alison, Randy and Jay were reluctant to describe themselves so. They didn’t want to be abducted. They didn’t seek attention for their stories. They are the real thing that no amount of “debunking” can make go away.

INTERVIEW WITH BUDD HOPKINS and OLIVER KEMENCZKY

FARAH: What is your typical protocol for investigating an abduction case?

BUDD H.: "Everything is case by case ... no general protocol. You work with what you've got. Each case is different. They all start with interviews.

OLIVER: Before Budd or anyone at IF jumps into an investigation, the alleged abductee and his claims are carefully scrutinized for credibility and for supporting physical evidence or witness testimony. Due to our limited resources and the vast number of people who come to IF for help, unfortunately only a select few cases make it through the investigation selection process.”

FARAH: In an abduction investigation do you think it is always necessary to interview corroborating witnesses such as the abductees’ family-friends-neighbours?

BUDD H: If one can.

OLIVER: Witness testimony, if available, may lend valuable credibility to an abduction case. Most compelling is when you receive two or more independent and corroborating abduction reports of the same event from people who do not know each other, or who have not spoken with each other about the event, or who may not have been aware that the other was present.

FARAH: Do you feel that Susan Clancy was thorough enough in her investigations to be able to draw qualified conclusions about abduction cases?

BUDD H: No, absolutely not.

OLIVER: Clancy's "research" was thoroughly invalid. Her scientific protocol was severely lacking; the data from her sample group was contaminated from the onset of her study; and her biased, predetermined beliefs further directed her erroneous conclusions.

FARAH: Did Richard McNally or Susan Clancy ever contact you before or after their investigations?

BUDD H: No. OLIVER: Perhaps Clancy did not contact Budd directly, but she did, in fact, contact IF representing herself as a serious abduction researcher. She even attended one of our IF seminars, during which she came across as very friendly, compassionate, and open to gaining an education. However, our subsequent offers to provide her with additional information concerning IF's abduction research and findings went unanswered.

Special thanks to Oliver Kemenczky for assisting on Budd Hopkins interview.

INTERVIEW WITH DAVID JACOBS, Ph.D.

FARAH: What would be your reaction to somebody who walks in your office introducing himself as a self-described abductee?

DAVID: I do get quite a few people who email, me, call me, and sometimes walk into my office at Temple University and say that they are abductees. If they contact me by email or by phone I always tell them to fill out my questionnaire on my website and put them on an ethical protocol for possible investigation after they have been judged to actually have had unusual experiences, and are not suffering from mental problems, and want to move forward for specific reasons other than curiosity, and so forth. They must be forewarned and forearmed about the problems of investigation. It is not for everybody. When people come to me in person (I have talked to an enormous number of people over the past twenty years of my abduction research who have said they are abductees), I will listen to their stories and be noncommittal but supportive. The problem is that even though a person might be an abductee, unless there is competent, agenda-free investigation, they have difficulties in remembering exactly what has happened to them and therefore their stories might be accurate but there is just as much chance, if not more, that they are inaccurate -- sometimes in profound ways. So we must all be very careful about abduction accounts that are not fully investigated. And even after investigation, depending on a complex set of variables, we still have to maintain our abilities to take a step back and say, "Maybe yes. Maybe no."

FARAH: If you feel that a self described abductee’s claims merit further investigation, how do you proceed?

DAVID : They must first fill out my questionnaire on my website. Everything begins with that. Then they have to call me back after a few days to give me time to analyze it (I do not call them). When they do call me, I analyze the questionnaire with them and give them the chance to add information. I determine whether their answers are indicative of possible abduction activity (based on the answers of abductees and non-abductees that I have researched over the years). If they are suggestive of activity, I then give them a long, and strong warning about going forward with me. I advise them of the pros and cons of investigation, stressing the cons. I tell them that this is not for everyone, it is a potentially a life-changing decision and there is no going back. I try to get them to not go forward. A significant number of them take my advice. If, however, they fit all the qualifications and are forewarned, know the pros the cons and the consequences, then we will make an appointment to have a preliminary session. I do not accept money from them; everything is Pro Bono. If they want to continue, I take them on. They can have as many sessions with me as they want. I have worked with the same people for many years. Many drop out after just one session, others have had many, many sessions with me.

FARAH: Do you feel that the book "Abducted: How People Come to Believe They Were Kidnapped By Aliens". is receiving its credibility is from its content or its publisher?

DAVID: The credibility this profoundly flawed book has enjoyed is because of the name "Harvard." Susan Clancy, the author, received her Ph.D. in Psychology from Harvard, and the book was published by Harvard University Press. These two Harvard affiliations are what has given this otherwise forgettable book a patina of expertise and authority that it does not deserve. If this were published by a trade press, my guess is that we would not be discussing it now and the author would not be on a book tour, appearing on Larry King Live, and so on. It just shows one that ignorance of the subject can be fairly constant no matter where it is "studied."

FARAH: Did Richard McNally or Susan Clancy contact you to find the real abductees or to get the view of an abduction researcher?

DAVID: Clancy and McNally did not contact me or my colleague Budd Hopkins. There is no reason to get a serious discussion of the subject when one already knows the answer.

UPCOMING SEMINARS – Mark Your Calendars!

February 25, 2006: Subject To Be Announced

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North Bergen, NJ - UFO Hot Spot

The following is a report published on 8/7/05 in Larry Dicken's home town newspaper, the Secaucus-Hudson Reporter about the some 700 reported UFO incidents in North Bergen, NJ which lies between Secaucus, Larry's home town, and the Hudson River and New York City. The report focuses on the incidents investigated by Budd Hopkins and his associates over the years in North Bergen, beginning in 1975. Why so many UFO observations in this location? We just don't know.

After reading the article, make sure you listen to the interview with Bob from Secaucus, NJ concerning his father's encounters with a UFO in 1979 in North Bergen. Bob is Robert mentioned in the newspaper article.

ALIENS ON THE STAGE with HOPKINS, BLOECHER and JACOBS
By Farah Yurdozu
4/2/05

You never know what a rainy evening in New York will bring you. But in the rainy night of April 2nd I knew very well what was bringing me to the ARE center in Manhattan: The first Intruders Foundation seminar of 2005.

Ted Bloecher, shown with David Jacobs and Budd Hopkins in the photo to the left, one of the important pioneers in UFO research and a friend of Budd Hopkins, was the invited speaker of the night. And the presence of David Jacobs at the seminar was a very nice surprise. Bloecher, who is also a professional actor, started his UFO investigations in 1947. Later he became a charter member and investigator in Civilian Saucer Intelligence. CSI was one of the earliest and most important research groups. Isabel Davis and Ted worked on many UFO cases during many years. The Sutton (Kelly/Hopkinsville, Kentucky) Encounter from 1955 is a case that they researched together. Ted is the author of “The UFO Wave of 1947” which was published in 1967.

At the same time Ted was traveling the country with such musicals as “My Fair Lady,” “Oliver” and “Half a Sixpence,” he had the opportunity to research UFO and Humanoid cases in many cities. Budd Hopkins and Ted Bloecher met in 1975 when Ted was investigating the famous UFO case in North Hudson Park, N.J. As Budd Hopkins told us, many strange coincidences and chance meetings were involved in this UFO case. For instance, a UFO had landed in front of a huge building-- the only building that Budd had been inside in all of that area some time ago.

The late George O'Barski was one of the primary witnesses of this UFO case. It is easy to classify his experience as a Close Encounter since he clearly saw the little men who got out of the UFO. When O’Barski first noticed the UFO he was driving through North Hudson Park, New Jersey, just across the Hudson River from Manhattan. He saw the round, dark object flying in the same direction as his car. The UFO entered a park, lowered to a few feet off the ground. A ladder came out. O’Barski saw ten identical-looking little men emerging from the UFO. It was not possible to see their faces as they were wearing a kind of helmet or hood. They were fast and looked like they knew very well why they were there. They immediately started to get soil samples using a spoon-like device and kept the samples in bags that they were carrying.

At this point Ted Bloecher (photo, left) has a very interesting theory as a professional and experienced stage actor. He says that: “I know very well what is a staged act and what is real. The scene of the getting soil samples was fake, it was staged. Their real target was George O’Barski. They weren’t interested in soil samples, they were interested in the witness.”

During the IF seminar we listened to an original tape recording provided by Jerry Stoehrer of a George O’Barski interview about his experience. When he was telling his story it was obvious that he was still under the effects of this very unique experience. But he didn’t notice the phenomenon of missing time when he was going back to his home after the sighting. As Ted Bloecher says, maybe George O’Barski was the real target and he really didn’t remember everything that happened that night.

The other witness to this incident was the doorman of the big building complex next to the park. He also reported seeing the UFO, and after the object left the windows of the lobby got broken. One more detail about his story is important. It was a very cold January night. The doorman suddenly noticed the existence of a strange looking very thin person with no coat. He came closer to the building and the doorman had time to see that he was wearing a kind of flash light on his head like miners use. The stranger left the place immediately and disappeared in the night.

The next year, 1976, Budd Hopkins and Ted Bloecher (photo, left) started to investigate another UFO case happened in Kent, Connecticut three years before. This was also a Close Encounter case and had approximately 12 witnesses who saw first the flying objects. Later the same night a group of strange and identical looking, small men were seen. The witnesses were interviewed separately. They reported the little men were wearing hiker suits such as t-shirts, bluejeans, etc. This detail wasn’t very clear. But there was something very definite: the group men were wearing flash lights on their heads. After this incident a young woman who witnessed the case started to develop a weird phobia. She and her husband needed to be checked by the doctor. But she was terrified of being examined and locked herself in the rest room. As we know that kind of phobia is very common among abductees.

IF’s April 2005 seminar was full of surprises and we also had the chance to listen David Jacobs who is a pioneer in this field. Another nice surprise for me was to see and to chat with Peter Robbins (photo, right) who is a UFO investigator and the writer of “Left at Eastgate” the story of a British UFO landing story.

NEWS FROM IF

Intruders Foundation has news and updates especially for the abductees and their families. Now Abductee Care Services (ACS) is open to everybody who has had a similar experience and may be having difficulties getting help. You can email them IFClinical@aol.com. Oliver Kemenczky (photo, left) states that each day they are getting letters from all over the world especially from the young abductees’ parents. Oliver shared with us some of these letters and it was an amazing experience to see that abduction is such a global phenomenon.

Another member of IF, Jed Turnbull (photo, left), LCSW, C.Ht. the Intruders Foundation Clinical Advisor, also announced that they are ready to help abductees in a clinical way. He can be reached at IFClinical@aol.com.

 

 

 

 

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